Semantics regardless of reasons. Warlords and Barons are the only individuals that can currently challenge for the title of Overlord. Squires by default are a TITLE, not a Rank. However they're a title that, at present, cannot challenge for anything.Munchem wrote:I'm not sure why you called this out. Warlord is a rank. Overlord and Baron are titles.PrlUnicorn wrote:Warlords and Renegade Barons can currently challenge for the title of Overlord.Munchem wrote: Warlords should be the only ranks able to challenge for title.
Grandmasters, Squires, and the right to challenge.
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Is that a requirement of titles?Sylus Kurgen wrote:However they're a title that, at present, cannot challenge for anything.
The Overlord can't challenge for a title. Nor the Diamond or Archmage. Nor for that matter can the Opals.
I think the pool of folks that can challenge for a title is already pretty large. I'm not sure we need to expand that to the squires.
If I were looking for a benefit for the squires, I'd rather look at something that allows them to serve their Baron. e.g., defend them in challenges.
Squires are also not warlords by definition, thus, they should not be able to challenge for OL or baron.Sylus Kurgen wrote:Semantics regardless of reasons. Warlords and Barons are the only individuals that can currently challenge for the title of Overlord. Squires by default are a TITLE, not a Rank. However they're a title that, at present, cannot challenge for anything.
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Because of terms like Test, Intercession, and Right of Challenge that had often been confused. If some things are not spelled fully spelled out, it might cause confusion. We do have some newer players among the community that might not be aware of the differences between a title and a rank especially since what has been referred to as Titled Ranks are listed in the Game Guide as ranks.Munchem wrote:I'm not sure why you called this out. Warlord is a rank. Overlord and Baron are titles.PrlUnicorn wrote:Warlords and Renegade Barons can currently challenge for the title of Overlord.Munchem wrote: Warlords should be the only ranks able to challenge for title.
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To reflect your character's increasing skill in the ring, he or she will be able to execute a certain number of Fancy maneuvers. Fancies are awarded according to rank as follows:
Rank
Number of Fancy Maneuvers
Commoner 0
Swordsman 1
Master-at-arms 2
Grandmaster 3
Warlord 4
Baron 5*
Overlord 6*
They are also referred to as ranks in The Triple Crown.
In the Duel of Swords, a duelist may become the Overlord by directly challenging the current holder of the title. This challenge may only be done from a Warlord or a Baron rank.
Throughout the history of the dueling community, there have only been a select few who have defied all odds and achieved these paramount ranks in all three sports.
I hope that clears things up.
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Munchem wrote:Squires are also not warlords by definition, thus, they should not be able to challenge for OL or baron.Sylus Kurgen wrote:Semantics regardless of reasons. Warlords and Barons are the only individuals that can currently challenge for the title of Overlord. Squires by default are a TITLE, not a Rank. However they're a title that, at present, cannot challenge for anything.
The point remains, it's an argument over Rank vs Title. Which to me is kind of petty to get into at this juncture. I'd like to think, as adults, we're better than that.Jake wrote:Is that a requirement of titles?Sylus Kurgen wrote:However they're a title that, at present, cannot challenge for anything.
The Overlord can't challenge for a title. Nor the Diamond or Archmage. Nor for that matter can the Opals.
I think the pool of folks that can challenge for a title is already pretty large. I'm not sure we need to expand that to the squires.
If I were looking for a benefit for the squires, I'd rather look at something that allows them to serve their Baron. e.g., defend them in challenges.
Warlord is a Rank.
Squire is a Title.
Apples to Oranges.
Warlords should be the only RANK that can challenge for Baron or Overlord. Got it.
Barons should be the only TITLE that can challenge for Overlord. Okay.
I'm all right leaving at that. This entire conversation is in the hypothetical.
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